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		<title>By: Question #8: What is the fundamental character of human beings? &#124; The Cause of Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Question #8: What is the fundamental character of human beings? &#124; The Cause of Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people and their ability to succeed, you&#8217;ll eventually come to believe that you must be their guardian and caretaker. This mindset inevitably leads to a condescending benevolence and false philanthropy using the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] people and their ability to succeed, you&#8217;ll eventually come to believe that you must be their guardian and caretaker. This mindset inevitably leads to a condescending benevolence and false philanthropy using the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dm</title>
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		<dc:creator>dm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im not sure of your correlation between &#039;strong hand&#039; and &#039;heavily regulated&#039;.  it seems to me that the current administrations veritabl weakness on strengthening the &#039;american workplace&#039; for all workers has set us so far back that even a &#039;strong hand&#039; will only get us back to the water mark. 

I don&#039;t think Bastiat could ever have imagined this world from his pov in the 1800s but his writing about &quot;a regulation of labor imposed by force&quot; as a violation of liberty is poignant if we take a moment to consider financial pressures as that &#039;force&#039;. is it possible to see other countries economies as that force that violates our liberty to live well? even the current insane oil speculation could be seen in that light without too stretching too far the analogy. 

all issues seem to stem from the illusion of separation of state and people, as if they are &#039;them&#039; and we are &#039;us&#039; and until people take back that responsibility and ownership and operate through government rather than be acted up by it then we&#039;ll always have the carousel of madness. personally i am enjoying the effect of barack obama to at least provoke a stirring, true he is using a broken system but it could serve to waken some in the future to a more integrated personal government of life.

interesting post, thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im not sure of your correlation between &#8216;strong hand&#8217; and &#8216;heavily regulated&#8217;.  it seems to me that the current administrations veritabl weakness on strengthening the &#8216;american workplace&#8217; for all workers has set us so far back that even a &#8216;strong hand&#8217; will only get us back to the water mark. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Bastiat could ever have imagined this world from his pov in the 1800s but his writing about &#8220;a regulation of labor imposed by force&#8221; as a violation of liberty is poignant if we take a moment to consider financial pressures as that &#8216;force&#8217;. is it possible to see other countries economies as that force that violates our liberty to live well? even the current insane oil speculation could be seen in that light without too stretching too far the analogy. </p>
<p>all issues seem to stem from the illusion of separation of state and people, as if they are &#8216;them&#8217; and we are &#8216;us&#8217; and until people take back that responsibility and ownership and operate through government rather than be acted up by it then we&#8217;ll always have the carousel of madness. personally i am enjoying the effect of barack obama to at least provoke a stirring, true he is using a broken system but it could serve to waken some in the future to a more integrated personal government of life.</p>
<p>interesting post, thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, Senator Obama has called for the need to use technology to enhance our quality of life. For example, he has called for all medical records to be put into an electronic system, to cut down on medical expenses associated with bad record-keeping and to ease the transfer of records. See http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf.

So I&#039;m not sure which way this cuts for Obama. It&#039;s probably just hyperbole that most politicians are famous for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, Senator Obama has called for the need to use technology to enhance our quality of life. For example, he has called for all medical records to be put into an electronic system, to cut down on medical expenses associated with bad record-keeping and to ease the transfer of records. See <a href="http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf</a>.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not sure which way this cuts for Obama. It&#8217;s probably just hyperbole that most politicians are famous for.</p>
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		<title>By: Reach Upward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reach Upward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even before Gutenberg, technological advances were considered with great suspicion, sometimes to the extent that they were considered tools of the devil.  Variations of this theme seem to be deeply rooted in the human psyche.  The funny thing is that we all tend to take advantage of technology as soon as it hits the consumer level.

I doubt Obama really believes his tripe.  He just knows it resonates with sometimes gullible voters.  If his contentions were correct, sub-Saharan Africa would be the most wealthy region of the earth, and the most remote tribes in the world that have little technology and don&#039;t trade with anyone else would enjoy the highest standard of living in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even before Gutenberg, technological advances were considered with great suspicion, sometimes to the extent that they were considered tools of the devil.  Variations of this theme seem to be deeply rooted in the human psyche.  The funny thing is that we all tend to take advantage of technology as soon as it hits the consumer level.</p>
<p>I doubt Obama really believes his tripe.  He just knows it resonates with sometimes gullible voters.  If his contentions were correct, sub-Saharan Africa would be the most wealthy region of the earth, and the most remote tribes in the world that have little technology and don&#8217;t trade with anyone else would enjoy the highest standard of living in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luddites always bemoan technology that will steal their jobs. Buggy manufacturers dreaded the car. Telegraph companies were scared to death of the telephone. Almost every office drone was terrified that the PC would steal their job. Instead of taking away jobs, technology has always made new jobs, improved efficiency and reduced the cost of good and services. Anyone with $50 can grab a copy of Quicken instead of paying an accountant an obscene amount to keep track of their finances.

Perhaps the most amusing part of Obama&#039;s statements is that he draws so much support from the netroots. It&#039;s almost like biting the hand that feeds him, you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luddites always bemoan technology that will steal their jobs. Buggy manufacturers dreaded the car. Telegraph companies were scared to death of the telephone. Almost every office drone was terrified that the PC would steal their job. Instead of taking away jobs, technology has always made new jobs, improved efficiency and reduced the cost of good and services. Anyone with $50 can grab a copy of Quicken instead of paying an accountant an obscene amount to keep track of their finances.</p>
<p>Perhaps the most amusing part of Obama&#8217;s statements is that he draws so much support from the netroots. It&#8217;s almost like biting the hand that feeds him, you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Heaven help us from this kind of help. It will bankrupt us all, cripple our nation, and destroy the will to succeed.&lt;/em&gt;

Reminds me of Ronald Reagan&#039;s quip: &quot;The nine most terrifying words in the English language are :&#039;I&#039;m from the government and I&#039;m here to help&#039;&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Heaven help us from this kind of help. It will bankrupt us all, cripple our nation, and destroy the will to succeed.</em></p>
<p>Reminds me of Ronald Reagan&#8217;s quip: &#8220;The nine most terrifying words in the English language are :&#8217;I'm from the government and I&#8217;m here to help&#8217;&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when has big government ever been the answer to anything?  It is THE most inefficient method of managing/producing/developing anything.  But this goes to the absolute basis of the liberal belief system.  Years ago when I was a teen, I asked my dad, &quot;What&#039;s the difference between Republicans and Democrats?&quot;  His answer (from a not-very-politically-involved mind) was this: &quot;Republicans believe that people are very capable on their own and should have equal opportunity.  They believe government should be strictly curtailed to only perform those functions absolutely necessary such as defense.  Democrats believe that people are basically incapable of caring for themselves and that they should have absolute equality.  They believe government should be expanded to care for the people and that wealth should be equalized--i.e., taken from the wealthy and successful--to pay for it.&quot;  
I discussed this at great length with my liberal sister and was astounded as she confirmed.  &quot;Yes, I believe people basically can&#039;t take care of themselves and we need to help them.  Government needs to help them.&quot;
Heaven help us from this kind of help.  It will bankrupt us all, cripple our nation, and destroy the will to succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when has big government ever been the answer to anything?  It is THE most inefficient method of managing/producing/developing anything.  But this goes to the absolute basis of the liberal belief system.  Years ago when I was a teen, I asked my dad, &#8220;What&#8217;s the difference between Republicans and Democrats?&#8221;  His answer (from a not-very-politically-involved mind) was this: &#8220;Republicans believe that people are very capable on their own and should have equal opportunity.  They believe government should be strictly curtailed to only perform those functions absolutely necessary such as defense.  Democrats believe that people are basically incapable of caring for themselves and that they should have absolute equality.  They believe government should be expanded to care for the people and that wealth should be equalized&#8211;i.e., taken from the wealthy and successful&#8211;to pay for it.&#8221;<br />
I discussed this at great length with my liberal sister and was astounded as she confirmed.  &#8220;Yes, I believe people basically can&#8217;t take care of themselves and we need to help them.  Government needs to help them.&#8221;<br />
Heaven help us from this kind of help.  It will bankrupt us all, cripple our nation, and destroy the will to succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sentiment is much older than the industrial revolution. 

When Johann Gutenberg invented the printing press in 1450 there were actually many people who resisted his invention.  In his book &lt;i&gt;The Reformation&lt;/i&gt;, historian Will Durant writes, &#8220;&#8230;not all welcomed [the printing press].  Copyists protested that printing would destroy their means of livelihood; aristocrats opposed it as a mechanical vulgarization, and feared that it would lower the value of their manuscript libraries; statesmen and clergy distrusted it as a possible vehicle of subversive ideas.&#8221;

Even the PRINTING PRESS, if you can imagine, was resisted on the same grounds, that people would lose jobs! Yet can we even quantify the amount of jobs that it actually created in the long-run? It spawned entire industries that had never existed before. 

It&#039;s so self-evident that it&#039;s even tiresome to keep pointing it out. But I suppose someone has to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sentiment is much older than the industrial revolution. </p>
<p>When Johann Gutenberg invented the printing press in 1450 there were actually many people who resisted his invention.  In his book <i>The Reformation</i>, historian Will Durant writes, &ldquo;&hellip;not all welcomed [the printing press].  Copyists protested that printing would destroy their means of livelihood; aristocrats opposed it as a mechanical vulgarization, and feared that it would lower the value of their manuscript libraries; statesmen and clergy distrusted it as a possible vehicle of subversive ideas.&rdquo;</p>
<p>Even the PRINTING PRESS, if you can imagine, was resisted on the same grounds, that people would lose jobs! Yet can we even quantify the amount of jobs that it actually created in the long-run? It spawned entire industries that had never existed before. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s so self-evident that it&#8217;s even tiresome to keep pointing it out. But I suppose someone has to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unfortunate that so many believe in such economic shortsightedness, and so many others fall victim through the rhetoric of those who espouse it. Such talk plays on the fears of workers.

By the way, Curtis, I also think there are virtues in living off the land by the sweat of our brow. I&#039;d like to learn to do more of that, myself. But government policy that encourages or subsidizes a move in that direction is foolhardy. A man who serves his fellows through his work and is also able to rely on his own labors for subsistence is a wise man indeed, worthy of emulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate that so many believe in such economic shortsightedness, and so many others fall victim through the rhetoric of those who espouse it. Such talk plays on the fears of workers.</p>
<p>By the way, Curtis, I also think there are virtues in living off the land by the sweat of our brow. I&#8217;d like to learn to do more of that, myself. But government policy that encourages or subsidizes a move in that direction is foolhardy. A man who serves his fellows through his work and is also able to rely on his own labors for subsistence is a wise man indeed, worthy of emulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that there are many parts that don&#039;t sound bad at all.   On the other hand, however, technology affords many luxuries and opportunities that are quite important.  

For example, using it to advance the Lord&#039;s work has been crucial.  So said Howard W. Hunter:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In recent years we have begun using information technology to hasten the sacred work of providing ordinances for the deceased. The role of technology in this work has been accelerated by the Lord himself, who has had a guiding hand in its development and will continue to do so. However, we stand only on the threshold of what we can do with these tools. I feel that our most enthusiastic projections can capture only a tiny glimpse of how these tools can help us&#8212;and of the eternal consequences of these efforts. &lt;span class=&quot;small&quot;&gt;(Howard W. Hunter, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quoty.org/quote/3682&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;via Quoty&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&lt;/blockquote&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there are many parts that don&#8217;t sound bad at all.   On the other hand, however, technology affords many luxuries and opportunities that are quite important.  </p>
<p>For example, using it to advance the Lord&#8217;s work has been crucial.  So said Howard W. Hunter:</p>
<blockquote><p>In recent years we have begun using information technology to hasten the sacred work of providing ordinances for the deceased. The role of technology in this work has been accelerated by the Lord himself, who has had a guiding hand in its development and will continue to do so. However, we stand only on the threshold of what we can do with these tools. I feel that our most enthusiastic projections can capture only a tiny glimpse of how these tools can help us&#8212;and of the eternal consequences of these efforts. <span class="small">(Howard W. Hunter, <a href="http://www.quoty.org/quote/3682" rel="nofollow">via Quoty</a>)</span></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, &quot;isolationist agrarians living off of the land, literally working by the sweat of our brow&quot; doesn&#039;t sound that bad.  There&#039;s something to be said for the simple lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, &#8220;isolationist agrarians living off of the land, literally working by the sweat of our brow&#8221; doesn&#8217;t sound that bad.  There&#8217;s something to be said for the simple lifestyle.</p>
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