I’m surprised you are against the war.

While it is tragic how many US and “Coalition of the Willing” soldiers have needlessly loss their lives to American neo-conservative idealism, these numbers are almost nothing compared to the nearly 50,000 Iraqi civilians and 150,000+ Iraq “soldiers” who have lost their lives because of America’s attack on Iraq.

Furthermore, I don’t think the best cure of terrorism is necessarily preaching the gospel, but rather taking a queue from Ammon and showing the Gospel (and by that, I mean the Gospel of communal love taught by Christ, and not just the Gospel of individualistic salvation preached by American Christianity (and much of modern Mormonism)).

What would your response have been to 9-11-01?

I’ve always believed that most of the world’s problems could be eliminated if more people/societies lived more closely to more pure Christian virtues.

That said, as long as people have free will/agency and opt not to, I’m thankful that our nation’s false gods can kick every other nation’s false god’s ass.

James:

My response would have been to reevaluate the role that American foreign policy plays in the construction of anti-American hatred and terrorism in the Middle East. It would not have been to utilize American fear as a catalyst for attacking a country and people which were not responsible for 9/11.

The only thing that related 9/11 and Iraq was that Bush used the former as propaganda to implement his neo-conservative idealism which included attacking the latter.

Connor, don’t tell me you believe in the Loose Change mumbo jumbo…

There are far too many unanswered questions

Or there are lots of answers that these conspiratorial loonies (such as Steve Jones) fail to acknowledge and respond to.

“Love our enemies?” If we used that logic during WW2 we would all be speaking German. Let me repeat that “We would all be speaking German.” Thankfully we had brighter minds at work during the 1940’s.

“Love our enemies?” If we used that logic during WW2 we would all be speaking German. Let me repeat that “We would all be speaking German.” Thankfully we had brighter minds at work during the 1940’s.

First, no. We would not be speaking German. Perhaps Britain and France (though highly unlikely), but not the US. An overseas attack would have been pathetically impracticle for the Nazi regime.

Second, if the notion to love one’s enemies were used following the first world war, there would not have been the major depression in Germany which led to the rise of Hitler and his regime. Hate begets hate. War begets war. It always has. It always will.

I am certainly not a proponent of the war in Iraq. But there are times when there is no other option except war and the killing of ones enemies.

But there are times when there is no other option except war and the killing of ones enemies.

Within a Christian worldview, you just lack faith in God.

God helps those who help themselves.

God helps those who help themselves.

Read the Sermon on the Mount. God helps those who need help. The Anti-Nephi-Lehi’s saw the smallest # of total death in their passivism than almost any other military altercation in the BofM. Furthermoe, whereas violent responses ALWAYS brew more violence in the BofM, the ANL’s passivism actually converted others to a Christian life.

I dont think Osama Bin Laden has read “The Sermon on the Mount.” He has only one goal and that is the total destruction of the free world as we know it. Preaching to Bin Laden and his ilk is hopeless. Jesus also said “My kingdom is not of this world.”

We can only hope that Bin Laden is dead. He has followers who are very much alive and well. Dispatching bad people is a marathon and not a sprint. Rome was not built in a day.

I have stated that I am not a big fan of the war in Iraq. I prize my liberties as much as you do and I dont want any of mine taken away either. ” A society that gives up liberties for the sake of security gains neither.”
I hear every word you are saying. Im just saying sometimes to preserve liberty requires the killing of bad people. Once something is lost or forfeited it is very hard to regain it.
I agree a withdrawal from Iraq as quickly as possible is needed.

What sucks even more is if we think about how the animation above would look if it were registering each of the 655,000 estimated excess deaths of Iraqis that have taken place since the war began. We often forget the mortality on the other side, and weep over our own dead.

Now go to this website and watch these video clips concerning the war in Iraq:
http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/OutofIraq.htm

It seems that every time I have something to share, you’ve already read it or seen It!