October 13th, 2006

Mexico is a Whining Baby

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The Associated Press is reporting that Mexico is threatening to tattle-tale on us to the United Nations because we want to build a border fence (although who knows when or if it’ll actually happen).

Give me a freaking break.

Mexico’s foreign secretary said the country may take to the United Nations a dispute over the United States’ plans to build a fence on the Mexican border.

The Mexican government last week sent a diplomatic note to Washington, criticizing the plan for 700 miles of new fencing along the border. President-elect Felipe Calderon also denounced the plan, but said it was a bilateral issue that should not be put before the international community.

Derbez said Monday after meeting with French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy that it was a “shame” U.S. immigration policy had been used for what he claimed was a short-term political gain in the lead-up to midterm elections in the United States in November.

The U.S. Senate approved the border fence bill last month and President Bush has said he will sign it into law — despite last-minute pleas from the Mexican government for a veto.

“What should be constructed is a bridge in relations between the two countries,” Derbez said.

It’s our country and we’ll do what we want with it. I’m sick of hearing how bad of an economic situation Mexico is in, and how they need the cash flow from jobs here in America. What they need is for some politicians with cajones to fix their country rather than demanding a “bridge” to have Uncle Sam finance their corruption and poverty. Grow up.

Disclaimer: I love the latin people. Serving in Honduras I grew even closer to them, and living in San Diego I saw firsthand what the immigration issue is like. My beef is not with the workers themselves. I understand what poverty drives people to do. My beef is with the corrupt politicians and officials in their country that don’t take matters into their own hands and instead try to pass the buck and look for an easy solution to their difficult problem. We need the fence.

15 Responses to “Mexico is a Whining Baby”

  1. Robert
    October 13, 2006 at 5:27 pm #

    I also love the Latin people. Having taught for years in California, I enjoyed the people and culture from South of the Border. I hate to see a rift develop between the U.S. and our neighbor, Mexico. It’s always been interesting to me how we concetrate on the illegal aliens from Mexico in this country, but never consider Canadians who immigrate illegally much of a problem.

    I oppose building a fence between our nations. I remember clearly seeing the Berlin wall while ti was operational. I also think we need to avoid alienating the Mesican government. I do, however,still believe we have the legal right and responsibility to protect our borders. I guess what I’m saying is that I don’t have any answers. It’s true that the economic situation in Mexico needs to improve.

    And we need to recognize and celebrate the contributions Mexican Americans have made to both our national economy and our culture.

  2. Connor
    October 13, 2006 at 6:43 pm #

    Robert,

    The main difference between our proposed border fence and the Berlin wall is that the former is to keep aliens out, while the latter was to keep citizens in. Big difference, in my opinion.

    I’m not saying we should alienate the Mexican government. However, they have profited on our dime for far too long, and this threatened action (of going to the U.N. to complain about us building a fence on our own soil) shows their unwillingness to face the facts and fix their own problems. Sure, we can help (and we are helping), but like the mother bird kicking her babies out of the nest so they can best learn to fly, so too we must cut the umbilical cord Mexico has been fed through so that they can develop their own atrophied muscles of internal government.

    I agree that Mexican Americans have made a significant contribution to our society. I’d be very interested to see what would happen if we had a mass deportation of all illegal aliens. The fast food industry would go belly up, hotels would be filthy, and hospital finances would no longer be in the red.

    On a higher scope, there are some interesting scriptures that talk about the Gentiles (us) carrying the remnants of the house of Israel (the latins) upon our shoulders and in our arms. I’ll be posting about this in days to come. Because of this view, I’m not opposed to supporting and assisting the latin people. I do, however, feel that the law must be obeyed. Building a wall to keep illegals out is a simply way to facilitate that necessity.

  3. RoastedTomatoes
    October 14, 2006 at 7:52 am #

    Connor, your claim that Mexico has “profited on our dime for far too long” is hard to imagine. Mexico’s economy has gained a lot of ground on the basis of remittances from the U.S., but those remittances come from productive work done in the U.S. that more than off-sets any cost to our country. Cutting off Mexican immigration would have costs for Mexico, but the dollar price for the U.S. would be substantially larger. In much of the U.S., agriculture, the construction industry, meat packing, manufacturing, and many other productive economic sectors (far beyond the fast food industry and janitorial work that you mention) would suddenly find themselves with vast labor shortages. That would drive wages way up, ending the profitability of huge components of American business. Did you like the Great Depression so much that you want another?

    You say, “the law must be obeyed.” Great. So, instead of the current hypocrisy in which we have a law on the books that would kill us if enforced, let’s change the law so that the real economic survival needs of our country are no longer illegal. Then there’s no problem, right?

  4. Connor
    October 14, 2006 at 9:06 am #

    Like Robert, I have no perfect solution to the immigration issue. I fully realize that prices would escalate should we deport all illegal aliens. On the other hand, one would assume that our taxes could go down since each person ends up financing some of the support they receive (hospital bills, education, welfare, etc.). However, the chances of Uncle Sam lowering taxes on such an occurence are slim to none. Nevertheless, such a possibility does not justify breaking the law. We must obey the law, come what may. What’s the point of the law if we turn a blind eye every time it is beneficial?

  5. fontor
    October 14, 2006 at 9:56 am #

    Keep in mind also that even illegal immigrants pay taxes. Sales taxes. And even more.

  6. Curtis
    October 14, 2006 at 1:11 pm #

    My whole problem with this border issue is that we allow huge, rich corporations to cross the border to make big bucks, but don’t allow individuals to do the same thing. When we took advantage of the corrupt politicians of Mexico in 1994 and instituted NAFTA, immediately the minimum wage in Mexico dropped about 50%. The middle class in Mexico shrunk quite a bit and you see a mass exodus of farmers (as they are undersold by cheap and subsidized US agricultural products) moving to the Maquiladoras in places like Juarez, where the cost of living is about 80% of what it is across the river in El Paso, but the people get paid peanuts and any trend toward organizing labor is squashed immediately. Before we arbitrarily set up the border between us and Mexico, people passed freely over that border for thousands of years. Now our secret combinations have conspired to get gain and glory at the expense of the common paizano.

    I think that if we don’t like the current immigrant situation, we need to seriously rethink NAFTA, which is in my opinion at least part of the root cause of our problems today.

  7. Parker (brother #3)
    October 4, 2007 at 3:25 pm #

    haha probably my favorite picture ever

  8. a random John
    October 4, 2007 at 3:55 pm #

    The main difference between our proposed border fence and the Berlin wall is that the former is to keep aliens out, while the latter was to keep citizens in. Big difference, in my opinion.

    What would your reaction be if Mexico volunteered to build a fence on their side of the border?

  9. Connor
    October 4, 2007 at 4:00 pm #

    What would your reaction be if Mexico volunteered to build a fence on their side of the border?

    Taking charge of our national security implies that we must build our own fence. Were we to rely on Mexico do to so, a simple bribery at the gate would allow anybody through, since money buys anything down south. We cannot outsource our responsibility to another country, for we could not hold them accountable for their actions (or inaction).

  10. a random John
    October 4, 2007 at 4:04 pm #

    Does the side of the border the fence (or wall) is on change whether it is evil or not?

  11. Connor
    October 4, 2007 at 4:05 pm #

    Does the side of the border the fence (or wall) is on change whether it is evil or not?

    Evil? Why is a fence inherently evil?

    It’s not about what side it’s built on, it’s about who is accountable for its construction and maintenance.

  12. a random John
    October 4, 2007 at 4:27 pm #

    It seems you’ve missed the fact that my comments were in reference to this statement of yours:

    The main difference between our proposed border fence and the Berlin wall is that the former is to keep aliens out, while the latter was to keep citizens in. Big difference, in my opinion.

  13. Connor
    October 4, 2007 at 4:34 pm #

    It seems you’ve missed the fact that my comments were in reference to this statement of yours:

    Yeah.. I didn’t realize you were responding to comments from one year previous. :) Please cite the section you’re referring to next time so I know the context of your comment.

    I would then add to my previous comment that the wall itself isn’t evil, it’s the purpose for which it is intended. Our wall is intended to enforce borders that have been previously created and defined. Whether it’s a slew of human sentries creating a virtual wall, or a bunch of bricks and metal, the effect is the same. Those who oppose the wall in essence favor open immigration and detest the border patrol, since they serve the same purpose.

  14. a random John
    October 4, 2007 at 6:14 pm #

    Please cite the section you’re referring to next time so I know the context of your comment.

    Please re-read my initial comment.

  15. Connor
    October 4, 2007 at 6:22 pm #

    Please re-read my initial comment.

    Haha.. my apologies. I must have glanced right over it. :) Thanks for pointing out my error.

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