Comments on: The Arrogance of Ammonihah http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-arrogance-of-ammonihah Rants and musings about things political, philosophical, and religious. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:03:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Josh Williams http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-arrogance-of-ammonihah#comment-60930 Josh Williams Sat, 23 May 2009 21:53:19 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=802#comment-60930 I've mentioned before here that I don't put much stock in extraordinary prophetic claims. And forgive me for being a tough-nut skeptic here. I have a hard time discussing the story of Ammonihah since I no longer take the BoM seriously. Real history is never so simplistic. I agree that there's a difference between Patriotism, and Chauvinism (or Jingoism). In my mind patriotism implies simply caring about your nation's well-being and being willing to take action to that effect. What characterizes chauvinism the most, I think is the irrational belief that your country or group is the absolute best and can do no wrong. I don't think a person is truly being "patriotic", if they're willing to sweep their country's faults under the rug. I’ve mentioned before here that I don’t put much stock in extraordinary prophetic claims. And forgive me for being a tough-nut skeptic here. I have a hard time discussing the story of Ammonihah since I no longer take the BoM seriously. Real history is never so simplistic.

I agree that there’s a difference between Patriotism, and Chauvinism (or Jingoism). In my mind patriotism implies simply caring about your nation’s well-being and being willing to take action to that effect. What characterizes chauvinism the most, I think is the irrational belief that your country or group is the absolute best and can do no wrong. I don’t think a person is truly being “patriotic”, if they’re willing to sweep their country’s faults under the rug.

]]> By: Michaela Stephens http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-arrogance-of-ammonihah#comment-60876 Michaela Stephens Wed, 20 May 2009 21:09:03 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=802#comment-60876 Good points. Additionally, it is interesting that the people's main method of discrediting Alma and Amulek was litigation--the lawyers worked hard to show that good was evil and make evil seem good. Amulek noted that this was perverting the ways of the righteous and that they were laying traps and snares to catch the holy ones of God. The people cried out against Alma and Amulek for speaking against the law (which had actually been corrupted) and reviling against the wise lawyers. (Since when have lawyers been sacrosanct and beyond criticism?) Good points. Additionally, it is interesting that the people’s main method of discrediting Alma and Amulek was litigation–the lawyers worked hard to show that good was evil and make evil seem good. Amulek noted that this was perverting the ways of the righteous and that they were laying traps and snares to catch the holy ones of God. The people cried out against Alma and Amulek for speaking against the law (which had actually been corrupted) and reviling against the wise lawyers. (Since when have lawyers been sacrosanct and beyond criticism?)

]]> By: Kelly W. http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-arrogance-of-ammonihah#comment-60875 Kelly W. Wed, 20 May 2009 04:19:31 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=802#comment-60875 I am reminded of this quote. "If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled away into a false security." (April 1968, General Conference Report) I am reminded of this quote.

“If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers – normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free – Americans who have been lulled away into a false security.” (April 1968, General Conference Report)

]]> By: Frank Staheli http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-arrogance-of-ammonihah#comment-60874 Frank Staheli Mon, 18 May 2009 19:02:21 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=802#comment-60874 I wrote recently about <a href="http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/my-very-intelligent-17-year-old-is.html" rel="nofollow">the faux patriotism that has been fomented in the United States</a> for the past 100 years that has shamed many of us from taking the "isolationist" perspective and gotten us embroiled in a string of wars we had no business joining. Somehow, many of us, the citizens of the modern-day United States of Ammonihah, have come to the dangerous conclusion that we can do anything we want anywhere in the world simply because we're Americans. In reality, though, as I said from the article linked above: "The true isolationist is at the same time the true American patriot. " I wrote recently about the faux patriotism that has been fomented in the United States for the past 100 years that has shamed many of us from taking the “isolationist” perspective and gotten us embroiled in a string of wars we had no business joining.

Somehow, many of us, the citizens of the modern-day United States of Ammonihah, have come to the dangerous conclusion that we can do anything we want anywhere in the world simply because we’re Americans.

In reality, though, as I said from the article linked above: “The true isolationist is at the same time the true American patriot. “

]]> By: Connor http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-arrogance-of-ammonihah#comment-60873 Connor Mon, 18 May 2009 17:22:51 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=802#comment-60873 Good question. <a href="/blog/prophetic-quotes-on-americas-destiny" rel="nofollow">Here are just a few.</a> Good question. Here are just a few.

]]> By: Cameron http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-arrogance-of-ammonihah#comment-60872 Cameron Mon, 18 May 2009 17:20:19 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=802#comment-60872 The question begged here is where is the present day Alma's warning of destruction? The question begged here is where is the present day Alma’s warning of destruction?

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