We here in the U.S. have changed the understanding of a word or two. A politician practices the art of compromise.

When Jesus returns he will already have been crowned but not become the chief practicer of compromise.

It won’t be political. He will rule absolutely.
Rev 2:27 And2532 he shall rule4165 them846 with1722 a rod4464 of iron;4603 as5613 the3588 vessels4632 of a potter2764 shall they be broken to shivers:4937 even as5613 I2504 received2983 of3844 my3450 Father.3962

Rev 19:15 And2532 out of1537 his848 mouth4750 goeth1607 a sharp3691 sword,4501 that2443 with1722 it846 he should smite3960 the3588 nations:1484 and2532 he846 shall rule4165 them846 with1722 a rod4464 of iron:4603 and2532 he846 treadeth3961 the3588 winepress3025, 3631 of the3588 fierceness2372 and2532 wrath3709 of Almighty3841 God.2316

Also I disagree that there will be an end to all nations. Icannot find this in the scripture anywhere but what I do find is also in Revelations.
Rev 20:7 And2532 when3752 the3588 thousand5507 years2094 are expired,5055 Satan4567 shall be loosed3089 out of1537 his846 prison,5438
Rev 20:8 And2532 shall go out1831 to deceive4105 the3588 nations1484 which3588 are in1722 the3588 four5064 quarters1137 of the3588 earth,1093 Gog1136 and2532 Magog,3098 to gather them together4863, 846 to1519 battle:4171 the3588 number706 of whom3739 is as5613 the3588 sand285 of the3588 sea.2281

If Jesus ended the nations then what or who is Satin going to decieve when afer the thousand years.

Jesus will not end the nations and I find furthe thought that the nations will be known as seperate entities even after the (coined ) great white thrown Judgement. by this parable found in Mathew, the parable of the lambs and the goats.

Mat 25:32 And2532 before1715 him846 shall be gathered4863 all3956 nations:1484 and2532 he shall separate873 them846 one from another,240, 575 as5618 a shepherd4166 divideth873 his sheep4263 from575 the3588 goats:2056

I do agree that the Devil is attempting to mimmic or coopt the Word. I do agree that trying to establish a borderless world by economic globalization and (coined) New World Order.

I know it will fail though, the world and the Devil jumped the Gun. In my opinion all this trouble to golbalize can only set up the world for the Final and Terrible Beast.

Keep up the fight.

Ensign, Nov, 1988, 86

I Testify

I testify that wickedness is rapidly expanding in every segment of our society. It is more highly organized, more cleverly disguised, and more powerfully promoted than ever before. Secret combinations lusting for power, gain, and glory are flourishing. A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world.

I’ve come to this web site because I want to know why more Mormons aren’t talking about this subject. This is SERIOUS stuff. We’re looking a the REAL ID Act, the precursor to us all getting chipped, being implemented in May 2008! We’re looking at the end of the United States by the North American Union. Habeus Corpus has not just been suspended but ELIMINATED! I’ve heard, since I was a child, that the church was supposed to step in when the constitution was hanging by a thread and save America. Where’s the church in all this? I feel like I’m working with a bunch of ostriches with their heads in the ground. No one even knows anything and certainly no one is doing anything. I was completely astonished to see Connor’s website. Where’s the love?

I suppose my inclination to state this is because I had not been very adept at standing for anything significant or substantive prior to reaching the age of 24. I was also living a sinful life, and was likely torn between wanting to continue partaking of the worldly offerings of the adversary, as well as completely turning away from them. Fortunately I chose to begin trying to turn away from the adversary by accepting the teachings of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Unfortunately my naive inward conclusion that my sins would be washed out to sea with the tide was erroneous.

For the sake of clarity, I was in Vietnam at the time (1971), and was baptized in the South China Sea. Anyone other than a casual observer may have determined that my foundational understanding of the principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ was established upon a rather weak concept. That being said it was not long before I realized that I was still very much a sinful person and decided that even though I was absolutely certain the things I had come to know about the Church were true, I would not fit very comfortably into such a perfect society. For the next 30 years I abandoned the thought about the position I had taken in my pre-earth life until about 5 years ago when I decided that I had for some reason been permitted by Heavenly Father to remain in my tabernacle of Flesh in spite of the many times I rejected the atonement so that I could continue chasing after worldly desires.

At that point I embarked upon a determined effort to see the entire process of repentance, and eternal progress through to the highest realm of the Celestial Kingdom, and the dwelling place of Him who gave my spirit life. There is one thing of which I am absolutely certain at this juncture in my life as well as this point in time, and space. I was not a “fence sitter” in the pre-earth war, and I am not one in the war which rages at this time in the United States of America, and throughout the earth.

There is a profound difference between good, and evil, and I know this because I have become very familiar with both. I chose evil out of fear, and good out of faith. Where once I was alone, and fearful, I am now in possession of the most awsome power on earth, and all other realms of creation, and that is the Word of Jesus Christ. I can no longer engage in debate over where my allegiance lies for it has been sufficiently defined. If you are not as yet certain about your stand I would recommend you define it soon. The scriptures are clear when you approach them spiritually, and prayerfully.

As for me I will follow the Prophet, not the profit. I will prepare for the reign of Jesus Christ upon the earth by following the examples of Heleman, and Captain Moroni. I will also follow the leadership of the original founders of the principles of the Constitution of the United States of America. In short I will be on the side of absolute truth, and justice without the least degree of consideration for political correctness, multiculturalism, or any other form of national or world politics which is devoid of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. “Choose ye this day whom ye shall serve.”

Read None Dare Call It Conspiracy (which President Bensons recommended in a General Conference talk) and you’ll get it! :)

It seems to me that the people in position to organize for self gain are clearly the corporations and organized crime networks we see around the world today. It’s the Al-quaeda’s funding themselves throughdrug money. It the corruption that has pushed Russian democracy into oblivion. Casting aspersion on those who clearly want a better world using a few vaque scriptural references seems unwarranted when groups that clearly fit the bill are quite obviously already present.

Robert, somebody as kind as you has no reason to get baned!

I also believe Christ will literally return one day.

I know He will. It’s just a matter of preparation. Will we be like the unwise virgins who didn’t have oil for their lamps, or will we be ready for His arrival?

These endtime beliefs have been filtered out of many mainline denominations. I suppose because Revel;ations is full of symbolism, We also never hear about “hell” or anything that isn’t positive and designed to make us feel good.

I, however, do believe the struggles between good and evil described in the Book of Revelations will happen. I also believe Christ will literally return one day.

What evidence do you have that the leaders at the top of these organizations “worship Lucifer?”

I do not deem them as wholly truthful or accurate.

Then why quote them? it undermines your credibility and point of view.

The problem is, though, Connor, that you quote pretty hyperbolic sources whose credibility is very questionable.

I quote extensively from scriptures and modern prophets. While I also link to other web pages once in a while that contain extra information on the topic, I do not deem them as wholly truthful or accurate. I include them simply as a reference point for anybody who may be interested in learning more, using the spirit of discernment to determine for themselves if it’s truthful or not.

I totally agree. Along these lines I love this quote by President Benson:

A minor thing….that was actually President Spencer W. Kimball and not Ezra Taft Benson.

Doubtful. The unification of the colonies was to secure liberties and “provide for the common defense” under an integrated system of government.

Hmmm, that seems to be the exact reason those who wish to see the EU, or other regional organizations flourish.

Please believe that I do indeed do this. What you label as paranoia, I label as seeking truth in scriptures and from modern prophets and observing what is really going on behind the scenes in the political affairs of nations in our day.

The problem is, though, Connor, that you quote pretty hyperbolic sources whose credibility is very questionable.

Ouch. :)

In case you didn’t know, the United States is a government of fifty individual governments–each with differing rights and rules governing its own citizens.

I vaguely remember my History professor teaching me this…….

If you were alive in the mid-18th century, you would have thought the plan to unify the 13 colonies would have been a satanic conspiracy to dominate the world under demonic power. You would have been wrong.

Doubtful. The unification of the colonies was to secure liberties and “provide for the common defense” under an integrated system of government. I sincerely believe that the men who founded our nation were inspired of God, not seeking to introduce tyranny or implement a “satanic conspiracy”. Far from paranoia, an understanding of the reasons behind today’s shift towards a one-world government is apparent to anybody who reads the scriptures. Constitution good, secret combinations bad.

Think it through and resist your inclination to be paranoid!

Please believe that I do indeed do this. What you label as paranoia, I label as seeking truth in scriptures and from modern prophets and observing what is really going on behind the scenes in the political affairs of nations in our day.

Assumptions like this are indicative of your general misunderstanding of history and politics. In case you didn’t know, the United States is a government of fifty individual governments–each with differing rights and rules governing its own citizens. If your assumption were logical or legitimate, the principle of states rights and federalism would be moot (a truism). Many states within broader unified coalition governments (like the U.S.) have rights that other states do not grant their citizens. For example, comapre Massachusetts’ legalization of gay marriage with the majority of other states who have constitutionally banned it!

If you were alive in the mid-18th century, you would have thought the plan to unify the 13 colonies would have been a satanic conspiracy to dominate the world under demonic power. You would have been wrong. Think it through and resist your inclination to be paranoid!