Comments on: The Redemption of the Republicans http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans Rants and musings about things political, philosophical, and religious. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:34:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Marc http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63243 Marc Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:25:14 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63243 Connor, love the Fascism photo at the top there. So totally appropriate! Connor, love the Fascism photo at the top there. So totally appropriate!

]]> By: Marc http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63242 Marc Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:23:42 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63242 To illustrate how lost the Repubs are, a news story just came out that Harry Reid made some supposed racial remarks against Obama a couple of years ago. Now the repubs are calling for Reid to step down. While what he said was stupid and perhaps offensive, it in no way compares to the outright treachery of people like Hatch and Bennet who voted for the TARP bailout, or the outright treason of Obama, Reid and Pelosi and others who are fully sovietizing the nation. Why not call for these traitors to step down over their crimes? What Reid said about Obama pales in comparison to some of these criminal activities. Both parties are just pathetic! To illustrate how lost the Repubs are, a news story just came out that Harry Reid made some supposed racial remarks against Obama a couple of years ago. Now the repubs are calling for Reid to step down. While what he said was stupid and perhaps offensive, it in no way compares to the outright treachery of people like Hatch and Bennet who voted for the TARP bailout, or the outright treason of Obama, Reid and Pelosi and others who are fully sovietizing the nation. Why not call for these traitors to step down over their crimes? What Reid said about Obama pales in comparison to some of these criminal activities.

Both parties are just pathetic!

]]> By: Tim Carter http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63241 Tim Carter Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:00:40 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63241 It dumbs down the conversation/ debate for sure. Way harder to get to middle ground after expending so much energy wading through that stuff. It dumbs down the conversation/ debate for sure. Way harder to get to middle ground after expending so much energy wading through that stuff.

]]> By: Clumpy http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63238 Clumpy Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:33:41 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63238 I agree Tim, the teabaggers are awful and uncreative. That's what you're saying, right? I agree Tim, the teabaggers are awful and uncreative. That’s what you’re saying, right?

]]> By: Tim Carter http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63237 Tim Carter Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:37:37 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63237 Yeah, and this isn't helping either: Moderator: Finally, learning a new language doesn't have to be hard. You can be fluent in conversational tea bag in just a few short minutes. Lesson one: Don't get distracted by the confusing words of other languages. " Character: I think the public option and the competition it would foster would really -- socialist, socialist. Moderator: Good, very good. Lesson two: If you're having trouble understanding the words of others or being understood yourself, use teabag's stronger, more descriptive words. Character: "Nazi, Nazi, Nazi." From here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120344047 Yeah, and this isn’t helping either:

Moderator: Finally, learning a new language doesn’t have to be hard. You can be fluent in conversational tea bag in just a few short minutes. Lesson one: Don’t get distracted by the confusing words of other languages.

” Character: I think the public option and the competition it would foster would really — socialist, socialist.

Moderator: Good, very good. Lesson two: If you’re having trouble understanding the words of others or being understood yourself, use teabag’s stronger, more descriptive words.

Character: “Nazi, Nazi, Nazi.”

From here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120344047

]]> By: rmwarnick http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63236 rmwarnick Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:20:27 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63236 Republican rule brought us what's now being called <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1942834,00.html" rel="nofollow">"The Decade From Hell."</a> President Bush failed to stop the worst terrorist attack in history, took the nation into two unwinnable wars, shredded the Constitution, and crashed the economy– sending us into the worst downturn since the Great Depression. Republicans lost jobs (first time since Herbert Hoover), and left us with a negative GDP (minus 3.5 percent). Bush came in with a budget surplus, then doubled the National Debt to $11 trillion and saddled the next administration with a record deficit. He even left part of the country in ruins (e.g. lower Manhattan, New Orleans, the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis). Frankly, even the blatant corporatist agenda of the Democrats looks good compared to that record. Republicans are going to have to work hard to restore their reputation. Voting NO on everything won't do it. Republican rule brought us what’s now being called “The Decade From Hell.”

President Bush failed to stop the worst terrorist attack in history, took the nation into two unwinnable wars, shredded the Constitution, and crashed the economy– sending us into the worst downturn since the Great Depression.

Republicans lost jobs (first time since Herbert Hoover), and left us with a negative GDP (minus 3.5 percent). Bush came in with a budget surplus, then doubled the National Debt to $11 trillion and saddled the next administration with a record deficit. He even left part of the country in ruins (e.g. lower Manhattan, New Orleans, the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis).

Frankly, even the blatant corporatist agenda of the Democrats looks good compared to that record. Republicans are going to have to work hard to restore their reputation. Voting NO on everything won’t do it.

]]> By: Connor http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63232 Connor Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:49:22 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63232 <em>...I have a hard time understanding Connor’s thinking that the Republican Party can redeem itself. I don’t think there are any redeeming qualities in either party.</em> I am a member of the Republican party, but do not affiliate myself at all with most who share the title. The redemption I speak of will only be made by those who truly live the anti-war, small-government, low-taxes, non-intervention creed. Whether or not this will ever happen is another issue. (Hence the reference to needing a miracle.) But those who, like myself, are working within the party to remove the corrupt elements believe that bit by bit, and by joining forces, we can reform this party. …I have a hard time understanding Connor’s thinking that the Republican Party can redeem itself. I don’t think there are any redeeming qualities in either party.

I am a member of the Republican party, but do not affiliate myself at all with most who share the title. The redemption I speak of will only be made by those who truly live the anti-war, small-government, low-taxes, non-intervention creed.

Whether or not this will ever happen is another issue. (Hence the reference to needing a miracle.) But those who, like myself, are working within the party to remove the corrupt elements believe that bit by bit, and by joining forces, we can reform this party.

]]> By: David http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63231 David Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:35:29 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63231 Well said. The hollow verbal assent to principle by those who have a public record of betraying those very same principles is nothing close to a change of ways. The best thing that could happen to the Republican party is a massive infusion of new leaders who are willing to point out the historic betrayal of principle by the party and commit to change the party. Those who support incumbent party officials based on arguments of seniority fail to realize that seniority by those who betrayed the principles they claim to believe in will not lead to those principles being followed in the future. Well said. The hollow verbal assent to principle by those who have a public record of betraying those very same principles is nothing close to a change of ways. The best thing that could happen to the Republican party is a massive infusion of new leaders who are willing to point out the historic betrayal of principle by the party and commit to change the party.

Those who support incumbent party officials based on arguments of seniority fail to realize that seniority by those who betrayed the principles they claim to believe in will not lead to those principles being followed in the future.

]]> By: Kelly W. http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63230 Kelly W. Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:34:14 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63230 Clumpy, the key to your statement is that the right and the left are BOTH evil, and one is a lesser evil and the other the greater evil. (I do, however, also believe the Republicans to be the greater evil.) I believe both left AND right are evil and corrupt. The democratic and republican parties (the left-right paradigm) are truly a tactic imposed upon us by the Secret Combinations that control both parties. Because of this, I have a hard time understanding Connor's thinking that the Republican Party can redeem itself. I don't think there are any redeeming qualities in either party. Clumpy, the key to your statement is that the right and the left are BOTH evil, and one is a lesser evil and the other the greater evil. (I do, however, also believe the Republicans to be the greater evil.)

I believe both left AND right are evil and corrupt. The democratic and republican parties (the left-right paradigm) are truly a tactic imposed upon us by the Secret Combinations that control both parties.

Because of this, I have a hard time understanding Connor’s thinking that the Republican Party can redeem itself. I don’t think there are any redeeming qualities in either party.

]]> By: Clumpy http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63229 Clumpy Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:54:26 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63229 Those aren't the only things they'll have to do, of course - the main problem right now on the Right is an unearned sense of their moral superiority and an absolute abandonment of anything approaching a principle, something that doesn't plague the Left since they never claim to be doing anything other than pragmatically seeking solutions. I agree basically with your comments though I have no faith that the sentiments Steele expresses reflect any penitence or desire to be the party of the good example. EDIT: And I should have said "greater of two evils" in the previous post. Those aren’t the only things they’ll have to do, of course – the main problem right now on the Right is an unearned sense of their moral superiority and an absolute abandonment of anything approaching a principle, something that doesn’t plague the Left since they never claim to be doing anything other than pragmatically seeking solutions. I agree basically with your comments though I have no faith that the sentiments Steele expresses reflect any penitence or desire to be the party of the good example.

EDIT: And I should have said “greater of two evils” in the previous post.

]]> By: Clumpy http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/the-redemption-of-the-republicans#comment-63228 Clumpy Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:20:49 +0000 http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/?p=1431#comment-63228 Steele's comments on Republican "blunders" focus almost entirely on the typical right-wing assertions that the party hasn't marketed itself well enough (among other very safe criticisms that require no real change other than never taking the Dem's side on anything). Until we see a comprehensive plan to stop celebrating war crimes within the next five years and respect human rights they'll remain the lesser of two evils. Steele’s comments on Republican “blunders” focus almost entirely on the typical right-wing assertions that the party hasn’t marketed itself well enough (among other very safe criticisms that require no real change other than never taking the Dem’s side on anything). Until we see a comprehensive plan to stop celebrating war crimes within the next five years and respect human rights they’ll remain the lesser of two evils.

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