March 1st, 2007

The Vision of Joel

Joel’s vision is as follows:

And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. (Joel 2:28-32)

In the October, 2001, General Conference, President Hinckley said:

The vision of Joel has been fulfilled… (“Living in the Fulness of Times,” Ensign, Nov 2001, 4)

Interesting…

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10 Responses to “The Vision of Joel”

  1. fontor
    March 2, 2007 at 5:27 am #

    What exactly happened to fulfill the part of the prophecy about the moon turning to blood and the sun turning dark?

  2. Connor
    March 2, 2007 at 8:17 am #

    Feel free to write him and ask. :) Interestingly enough, tomorrow there will be a large lunar eclipse.

  3. fontor
    March 2, 2007 at 12:22 pm #

    Cool.

  4. Jeff
    March 3, 2007 at 12:29 pm #

    He said it less than a month after 9/11. And, if I recall, the discourse was about the attack and the coming conflict in the middle east. Looking through that smoke at the moon would make it blood-like; plus, there was a lot of blood shed that day. Could that have been what he was talking about?

    That’s how I took it when I heard it.

  5. Kelly Winterton
    March 3, 2007 at 3:30 pm #

    Jeff, I think you’re right. I like to look at the complete chapter 18 of the book of Revelation, and try to liken that chapter to USA and the 9/11 attacks. In a way, if you stop to ponder it, you have to realize that ancient prophets saw our day, and prophecied about the events just prior to the Second Coming. And since our Church is called the Church of Jesus Christ of LATTER-DAY Saints, you can hardly dismiss President Hinckley’s words right after the 9/11 attacks saying the vision of Joel had been fulfilled. Did Joel see our day in vision? Of course he did. Did he see the events of 9/11 in vision? Perhaps, but if he DIDN’T see the attacks of 9/11 in vision, what other event did he see in vision that President Hinckley would declare them now to be fulfilled?

  6. Kelly Winterton
    March 3, 2007 at 3:36 pm #

    Then again, perhaps President Hinckley didn’t tell us EXACTLY how the vision had been fulfilled on purpose. The ancient prophets often talked in symbolic and hard to understand language on purpose. That way those who had ears to hear and eyes to see would understand through the Holy Ghost. Perhaps President Hinckley wants us to hear the interpretation of the vision of Joel through the Spirit.

    It is very clear that most LDS didn’t listen to President Hinckley’s words that day, or perhaps have just forgotten about them. (I am guilty of this.) Thanks, Connor, for bringing it back to our rememberance. President Hinckley surely said those words for a reason, what are we to understand from them?

  7. Connor
    March 3, 2007 at 6:30 pm #

    …what are we to understand from them?

    Your guess is as good as mine! :)

  8. fontor
    March 4, 2007 at 1:36 am #

    People are creative, and tend to see things that they’re thinking of, even in random noise.

    Sort of like when you get a certain kind of car, and then suddenly the roads are jammed with that kind of car. Or the way everyone’s having a baby when you’re having a baby. You always hear your name even when no one is calling you, but never anyone else’s. And when you’re reading a lot of scriptures, things in your life seem more likely to relate to them.

    Nothing supernatural necessarily; just the way our pattern-matching brains work.

    Especially if you’re not fussy about what constitutes a hit.

  9. Marc
    March 16, 2007 at 2:56 pm #

    If you read the first part of Joel chapter 2 it seems fairly clear that those scriptures are talking about a nuclear attack on America. Since the latter part of joel 2 was fullfiled with 9/11, i wonder if the first part of joel is also about to be fulfilled? This interpretation of joel 2 would fit in with other quotes form latter day prophets who saw when America would be “cleansed” and the BOM that says the gentiles on this continent won’t be “utterly” destroyed. Read it and see if you agree:

    War and desolation precede the Second Coming—The sun and the moon shall be darkened—The Lord will pour out his Spirit upon all flesh—There will be dreams and visions.

    1 Blow ye the atrumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy bmountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the cday of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
    2 A day of adarkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
    3 A fire adevoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of bEden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
    4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
    5 Like the anoise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the bstubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
    6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather ablackness.
    7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
    8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
    9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
    10 The aearth shall quake before them; the heavens shall btremble: the csun and the moon shall be ddark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

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