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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/until-weve-won#comment-32471</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they want Iraq to become sorta like us?

Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they want Iraq to become sorta like us?</p>
<p>Jay</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Winterton</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/until-weve-won#comment-32339</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Winterton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &quot;win&quot; in Iraq means that all Iraqis all become serfs/slaves, yielding up to us all their oil. The Iraqi &quot;government&quot; would be totally compliant to U.S. wishes and control. The media portrays all Iraqis as content and satisfied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;win&#8221; in Iraq means that all Iraqis all become serfs/slaves, yielding up to us all their oil. The Iraqi &#8220;government&#8221; would be totally compliant to U.S. wishes and control. The media portrays all Iraqis as content and satisfied.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/until-weve-won#comment-32261</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would a &quot;win&quot; in Iraq look like?

Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would a &#8220;win&#8221; in Iraq look like?</p>
<p>Jay</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/until-weve-won#comment-32253</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing wrong with the questions you listed, but as with every other problem we face there is ultimately only one question to answer - what&#039;s the best way forward from here?

The value in all other questions is found only if they help us get the right answer to that preeminent question.

This is where I diverge from you and other followers of Ron Paul - I don;t think he has the right answer to &quot;what&#039;s the best way forward?&quot; I do think he is providing a crucial service by reminding us of how wilfully blind we were to charge into this mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with the questions you listed, but as with every other problem we face there is ultimately only one question to answer &#8211; what&#8217;s the best way forward from here?</p>
<p>The value in all other questions is found only if they help us get the right answer to that preeminent question.</p>
<p>This is where I diverge from you and other followers of Ron Paul &#8211; I don;t think he has the right answer to &#8220;what&#8217;s the best way forward?&#8221; I do think he is providing a crucial service by reminding us of how wilfully blind we were to charge into this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Bayless</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/until-weve-won#comment-30298</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bayless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah and congrats! and best wishes to the both of you! :]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah and congrats! and best wishes to the both of you! :]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Bayless</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/until-weve-won#comment-30297</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bayless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Connor,

Excellent post as always.  After the recent GOP debates I wanted to write about how much it reminded me of a high school pep rally where [almost] all the candidates were so gung-ho about how our team could beat anybody anywhere for whatever reasons we chose.

It seemed only Ron Paul (who actually loves his alma mater enough to speak the truth) was pointing out that sending our Football team in full Football gear into the opponents swimming pool for a water polo game just wasn&#039;t working.  Kicking a field goal just doesn&#039;t score points in water polo.  No matter how good our football team is (and how impressive it was to do that from the middle of the pool).  We can cheer and we can &#039;stay the course&#039; but it won&#039;t magically produce a &quot;W&quot; until we assess the situation for what it is and do some things different.

But then I read your post and you put it more eloquently and concisely.

I wish your questions could be considered and discussed more widely.  As the previous poster noted, they are indeed simple yet powerful.

Thanks for asking them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connor,</p>
<p>Excellent post as always.  After the recent GOP debates I wanted to write about how much it reminded me of a high school pep rally where [almost] all the candidates were so gung-ho about how our team could beat anybody anywhere for whatever reasons we chose.</p>
<p>It seemed only Ron Paul (who actually loves his alma mater enough to speak the truth) was pointing out that sending our Football team in full Football gear into the opponents swimming pool for a water polo game just wasn&#8217;t working.  Kicking a field goal just doesn&#8217;t score points in water polo.  No matter how good our football team is (and how impressive it was to do that from the middle of the pool).  We can cheer and we can &#8216;stay the course&#8217; but it won&#8217;t magically produce a &#8220;W&#8221; until we assess the situation for what it is and do some things different.</p>
<p>But then I read your post and you put it more eloquently and concisely.</p>
<p>I wish your questions could be considered and discussed more widely.  As the previous poster noted, they are indeed simple yet powerful.</p>
<p>Thanks for asking them!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/until-weve-won#comment-30247</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socrates the philosopher, would often play the character of a senile, ignorant old man, and would pose a series of ridiculously simple (but very perceptive) questions. Nevertheless his opponents would be at a loss to answer him, because his questions cut to the heart of their underlying falulty assumptions and logic.  

It&#039;s no wonder they had him poisoned; asking simple questions can have great power.

His credo and method of &quot;I know nothing&quot;, can be used not only to expose fallacious and misleading statements, but also to teach.

Often, the value in any statement or principle, lies not in the questions that it answers, but those questions that it  creates.

P.s.
Congratulations on the wedding. Have fun on you honeymoon, drive safe, and good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socrates the philosopher, would often play the character of a senile, ignorant old man, and would pose a series of ridiculously simple (but very perceptive) questions. Nevertheless his opponents would be at a loss to answer him, because his questions cut to the heart of their underlying falulty assumptions and logic.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder they had him poisoned; asking simple questions can have great power.</p>
<p>His credo and method of &#8220;I know nothing&#8221;, can be used not only to expose fallacious and misleading statements, but also to teach.</p>
<p>Often, the value in any statement or principle, lies not in the questions that it answers, but those questions that it  creates.</p>
<p>P.s.<br />
Congratulations on the wedding. Have fun on you honeymoon, drive safe, and good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/until-weve-won#comment-29639</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1)we are in Iraq to control the region&#039;s oil resources and to squelch any challenge to our hegemony.

2)No.  We lied about the initial reason.  It helps to have an obedient media and a population that doesn&#039;t read past the sports page.  

3)Gotta think that the Project for a New American Century had a lot to do with it.  

4)We&#039;re apparently trying to kill more people than we did in Vietnam.  We are only halfway there.

5)The truth has never been told about Iraq... for decades now.

6)Stop being so darn pesky.  When we finish the job man!  What job?  Killing more than we did in Vietnam!

7)We are the world&#039;s great imperial power.  It wouldn&#039;t do to have a base smaller than the Vatican now would it?

8)The only laws we need to go by are the gut feelings induced by testosterone in Cheney&#039;s and Bush&#039;s head.  War of agression crimes and international law... just gets in the way.

9)Sure we can afford this war.  We just need to stop funding for non-essential things like education, soldier&#039;s salaries and medical care etc.  We&#039;re the richest country in the world and this war is helping our military to reach the ominous &quot;full spectrum dominance&quot; envisioned by the authors of the Project for a New American Century.

10)You darn rights it is.  Now every piss-ant democracy should be peeing their pants.  We can do as we please when there is no challenge to our military dominance.

11)I&#039;d send your kids but not mine.  Who cares if it is just?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1)we are in Iraq to control the region&#8217;s oil resources and to squelch any challenge to our hegemony.</p>
<p>2)No.  We lied about the initial reason.  It helps to have an obedient media and a population that doesn&#8217;t read past the sports page.  </p>
<p>3)Gotta think that the Project for a New American Century had a lot to do with it.  </p>
<p>4)We&#8217;re apparently trying to kill more people than we did in Vietnam.  We are only halfway there.</p>
<p>5)The truth has never been told about Iraq&#8230; for decades now.</p>
<p>6)Stop being so darn pesky.  When we finish the job man!  What job?  Killing more than we did in Vietnam!</p>
<p>7)We are the world&#8217;s great imperial power.  It wouldn&#8217;t do to have a base smaller than the Vatican now would it?</p>
<p>8)The only laws we need to go by are the gut feelings induced by testosterone in Cheney&#8217;s and Bush&#8217;s head.  War of agression crimes and international law&#8230; just gets in the way.</p>
<p>9)Sure we can afford this war.  We just need to stop funding for non-essential things like education, soldier&#8217;s salaries and medical care etc.  We&#8217;re the richest country in the world and this war is helping our military to reach the ominous &#8220;full spectrum dominance&#8221; envisioned by the authors of the Project for a New American Century.</p>
<p>10)You darn rights it is.  Now every piss-ant democracy should be peeing their pants.  We can do as we please when there is no challenge to our military dominance.</p>
<p>11)I&#8217;d send your kids but not mine.  Who cares if it is just?</p>
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		<title>By: Bishop Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/until-weve-won#comment-29592</link>
		<dc:creator>Bishop Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy your wedding trip Connor.  Ten days with the love of your life will soon seem like it was ten minutes.  You will be very happy and you will also create happiness with your lovely wife.  Man was not put on this earth to be alone and I am very happy for both of you.  You will be good for one another and I wish you all the best.  I forgot what your post was about.  I will re-read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoy your wedding trip Connor.  Ten days with the love of your life will soon seem like it was ten minutes.  You will be very happy and you will also create happiness with your lovely wife.  Man was not put on this earth to be alone and I am very happy for both of you.  You will be good for one another and I wish you all the best.  I forgot what your post was about.  I will re-read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/until-weve-won#comment-29588</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Note&lt;/strong&gt;:

I&#039;ll be leaving shortly for 10 days, and will not have internet access during that time.  So, I won&#039;t be commenting (or posting). 

Enjoy the discussion amongst yourselves.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Note</strong>:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be leaving shortly for 10 days, and will not have internet access during that time.  So, I won&#8217;t be commenting (or posting). </p>
<p>Enjoy the discussion amongst yourselves.  :)</p>
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