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		<title>By: Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/veto-the-voting-machines#comment-6935</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/veto-the-voting-machines#comment-5338</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the latest demonstration of what piss poor security surrounds our official voting systems, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4066&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;somebody used an image&lt;/a&gt; of the master key from Diebold&#039;s website to successfully create duplicate keys, letting anybody have free access to the machine.

Absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the latest demonstration of what piss poor security surrounds our official voting systems, <a href="http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4066" rel="nofollow">somebody used an image</a> of the master key from Diebold&#8217;s website to successfully create duplicate keys, letting anybody have free access to the machine.</p>
<p>Absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/veto-the-voting-machines#comment-4108</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the Diebold machines &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_4855784&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;are costing Utah taxpayers&lt;/a&gt; a pretty penny...  Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the Diebold machines <a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_4855784" rel="nofollow">are costing Utah taxpayers</a> a pretty penny&#8230;  Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/veto-the-voting-machines#comment-825</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In answer to my own question, &quot;why vote at all?&quot;, I think I found my answer.  Joseph Smith said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;...if we have to throw away our votes, we had better do so upon a worthy, rather than upon an unworthy individual, who might make use of the weapon we put in his hand to destroy us with.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And in D&amp;C &lt;a href=&quot;http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/134&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;134:1&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;We believe that governments were instituted of God for the benefit of man; and that &lt;strong&gt;he holds men accountable for their acts in relation to them&lt;/strong&gt;, both in making laws and administering them, for the good and safety of society.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So regardless of whether my vote is counted accurately, I will vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In answer to my own question, &#8220;why vote at all?&#8221;, I think I found my answer.  Joseph Smith said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;if we have to throw away our votes, we had better do so upon a worthy, rather than upon an unworthy individual, who might make use of the weapon we put in his hand to destroy us with.</p></blockquote>
<p>And in D&#038;C <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/134" rel="nofollow">134:1</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>We believe that governments were instituted of God for the benefit of man; and that <strong>he holds men accountable for their acts in relation to them</strong>, both in making laws and administering them, for the good and safety of society.</p></blockquote>
<p>So regardless of whether my vote is counted accurately, I will vote.</p>
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		<title>By: fontor</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/veto-the-voting-machines#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>fontor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they tried that in Florida. 

Now look what&#039;s happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they tried that in Florida. </p>
<p>Now look what&#8217;s happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/veto-the-voting-machines#comment-732</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea fontor. Employ the makers of the slot machines. I think more money is spent securing those machines than anything else. I think they would be the best to hire for such a task.

Hey maybe they could add a lever to the side. Then when you have no idea who the candidates are for those useless offices in our bloated government, you could let the machine randomly pick one :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea fontor. Employ the makers of the slot machines. I think more money is spent securing those machines than anything else. I think they would be the best to hire for such a task.</p>
<p>Hey maybe they could add a lever to the side. Then when you have no idea who the candidates are for those useless offices in our bloated government, you could let the machine randomly pick one :D</p>
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		<title>By: fontor</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/veto-the-voting-machines#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator>fontor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarifying: No, not that way -- having to go to everyone&#039;s house for a recount would be nuts. You&#039;d get your own receipt, but there&#039;d also be a paper copy kept for the archive.

Or something like that.

This &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2006/03/16/GR2006031600213.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;graphic&lt;/a&gt; on Vegas slot machine verification was interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarifying: No, not that way &#8212; having to go to everyone&#8217;s house for a recount would be nuts. You&#8217;d get your own receipt, but there&#8217;d also be a paper copy kept for the archive.</p>
<p>Or something like that.</p>
<p>This <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2006/03/16/GR2006031600213.html" rel="nofollow">graphic</a> on Vegas slot machine verification was interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/veto-the-voting-machines#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A paper trail would be helpful, and probably would do much in the way of preventing tampering and falsification.  However, it would be cumbersome, if not impossible, to go around to everybody&#039;s homes and double-check the paper trail to verify if the electronic count is accurate.  But I would be in favor of having an open-source model for a voting machine where, as you suggest, independent auditors can examine them at any time.

The only problem with the open source model is that with the code being open to the public, people can easily access it and attempt to subvert it.  That is the benefit of a proprietary system - it&#039;s much harder for would-be hackers to know how to thwart the code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A paper trail would be helpful, and probably would do much in the way of preventing tampering and falsification.  However, it would be cumbersome, if not impossible, to go around to everybody&#8217;s homes and double-check the paper trail to verify if the electronic count is accurate.  But I would be in favor of having an open-source model for a voting machine where, as you suggest, independent auditors can examine them at any time.</p>
<p>The only problem with the open source model is that with the code being open to the public, people can easily access it and attempt to subvert it.  That is the benefit of a proprietary system &#8211; it&#8217;s much harder for would-be hackers to know how to thwart the code.</p>
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		<title>By: fontor</title>
		<link>http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/veto-the-voting-machines#comment-723</link>
		<dc:creator>fontor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Egad, Connor. 

I&#039;m a liberal vegetarian ex-Mormon atheist. I regard John Birch literature as -- what&#039;s the Hebrew word -- ritually unclean. I&#039;m sure that an actual conversation would be irritating for both of us.

So how come I find myself agreeing with you on more than a few political issues? Like we both can&#039;t stand Bush (it seems), and even for the same reasons. Polling machines are to be mistrusted. Could it be that we&#039;re both extremists, since all extremists resemble each other? Or do we both just make sense in accidentally converging ways? I dunno.

Back on topic. I&#039;d support voting machines if they printed a paper receipt and if the innards could be examined by independent auditors anytime, sort of like they do with Las Vegas slot machines. How say you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egad, Connor. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a liberal vegetarian ex-Mormon atheist. I regard John Birch literature as &#8212; what&#8217;s the Hebrew word &#8212; ritually unclean. I&#8217;m sure that an actual conversation would be irritating for both of us.</p>
<p>So how come I find myself agreeing with you on more than a few political issues? Like we both can&#8217;t stand Bush (it seems), and even for the same reasons. Polling machines are to be mistrusted. Could it be that we&#8217;re both extremists, since all extremists resemble each other? Or do we both just make sense in accidentally converging ways? I dunno.</p>
<p>Back on topic. I&#8217;d support voting machines if they printed a paper receipt and if the innards could be examined by independent auditors anytime, sort of like they do with Las Vegas slot machines. How say you?</p>
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