August 23rd, 2006

Wicked Gentiles and Salt Lake City

Temple

From the mouth of Heber C. Kimball:

An army of Elders will be sent to the four quarters of the earth to search out the righteous and warn the wicked of what is coming. All kinds of religions will be started and miracles performed that will deceive the very elect if that were possible. Our sons and daughters must live pure lives so as to be prepared for what is coming.

After a while the Gentiles will gather by the thousands to this place, and Salt Lake City will be classed among the wicked cities of the world. A spirit of speculation and extravagance will take possession of the Saints, and the results will be financial bondage.

Persecution comes next and all true Latter-day Saints will be tested to the limit. Many will apostatize and others will be still not knowing what to do. Darkness will cover the earth and gross darkness the minds of the people. The judgments of God will be poured out on the wicked to the extent that our Elders from far and near will be called home, or in other words the gospel will be taken from the Gentiles and later on carried to the Jews.

The western boundary of the State of Missouri will be swept so clean of its inhabitants that as President Young tells us, when you return to that place, there will not be left so much as a yellow dog to wag his tail.

Before that day comes, however, the Saints will be put to a test that will try the integrity of the best of them. The pressure will become so great that the more righteous among them will cry unto the Lord day and night until deliverance comes.

—Heber C. Kimball, First Counselor in the First Presidency, May 1868, in Deseret News, 23 May 1931; see also Conference Report, Oct. 1930, p. 58-59

Whoa.

16 Responses to “Wicked Gentiles and Salt Lake City”

  1. Wade
    August 23, 2006 at 11:07 pm #

    It has been said that Heber was the most prophetic of all the Apostles and Prophets combined. Many of his prophesies have been fulfilled and many yet remain to be. Times are interesting.

  2. Dustin Davis
    August 25, 2006 at 8:13 am #

    I wonder if Mayor Rocky Anderson knows of this prophecy and all his work is to see that it is fulfilled ;)

    This struck me as most interesting:

    A spirit of speculation and extravagance will take possession of the Saints, and the results will be financial bondage.

    I have to admit, I’ve been caught up to this thinking debt was normal and things would get better (somehow all by itself). Now I’m wiser and I’m following Dave Ramsey zealously to get out of debt for good.

  3. Adam Greenwood
    August 25, 2006 at 1:29 pm #

    That extravagance thing sure hits home. No wonder the prophets and apostles are always hammering away at debt.

  4. B.W.
    September 16, 2006 at 10:54 pm #

    “Spirit of speculation and extravagence will take possession of the Saints and the results will be financial bondage.” Utah is the #1 state for new start up companies and MLM’s. We have so many connections because of the Church and that leads us to more ideas and opportunities. We need to use the spirit when it comes to involving those we love and care for. Sharing the gospel, home teaching and encouraging others is more important than being “rich in the eyes of the world”. We need to teach “living within our means” instead of “make more money by working more”.

    I love this quote! I’ve used it for 10 years and it applies more and more each year. It’s fun to watch the faces of those hearing it for the first time.

    Love, Peace and Mormonism! – Brandon

  5. James
    October 8, 2008 at 5:25 am #

    We should certainly look for the fulfillment of this prophecy. But the time is not yet.

    Salt Lake City is not yet “classed” among the wicked cities of the world.

    Try and name anyone of notable reputation who has classed it as such, LDS or non-LDS.

  6. Daniel
    October 8, 2008 at 5:45 am #

    I can’t find my shoehorn. I thought maybe someone was using it here.

  7. Jeffrey Elliott
    March 15, 2009 at 2:18 pm #

    In a recent visit to SLC to help my beautiful daughter, I watched one of the local news channels and was somewhat suprised by the growing pride that I had viewed.

    These news anchors, bickering amongst each other struck me as “wannabes”. I believe many of them want SLC to become, like San Francisco, Los Angeles and New York! A deep sense of sadness came over me, because I thought they will get what they hope for, unless, enough good people say enough is enough. We are returning to our roots, our religion and our traditions. We do not wish to be like the rest of the world!

    Truly, I believe it is Salt Lake Cities choice!

  8. Brian
    July 19, 2010 at 11:00 am #

    @Daniel:

    “Doubters do not achieve; skeptics do not contribute; cynics do not create.” – http://www.quotationcollection.com/quotation/905

  9. Clark K
    March 30, 2011 at 10:37 am #

    As far as SLC becoming one of the wicked cities of the world, what was the first wickedness that caused Satin to be cast out of heaven? You guessed it, he was trying to take away free agency. He was going to make us be good. The Utah State legislature has taken away more free agency than any entity I know of except the U.S. Congress. When a law is created it must be backed up by fines or jail or both. If you don’t think you need to pay the fine then you wind up in jail, if you don’t want to go to jail, you wind up tazerd or shot. I don’t want you to eat too much salt, I don’t want you to drink, too many trans-fats bud, I don’t want you to take drugs, I don’t want you to smoke (anything!), I don’t want you to eat meat, I don’t want you to buy toy looking cigarette lighters, buckle up for safety, you must close your store on Sunday, you must get a permit to protect yourself, you must pay taxes so we can impose all these laws. And while I am at it, please pay for my food, housing, medical, education etc. If I see you spank your kid or kick your dog you had just better watch it! If you want to build a Tuff Shed on your property make sure you ask me first and pay for a permit. When riding your bike make sure you have your helmet on. Don’t you even think of looking at that dirty picture. Put away that cell phone when driving. If I think of anything else that would be good for you or I just don’t like, I will write another law. I know there are thousands of laws but don’t you think there is room for a few more?

  10. AV
    March 30, 2011 at 3:34 pm #

    Salt Lake City is one of the most wicked cities of the world because most all members of the Church have rejected Christ & his Gospel after receiving it so abundantly & instead have chosen to support or do evil.

  11. dlcorrell
    April 13, 2012 at 8:15 am #

    in i think it was 1997 the FBI crime statistics index had SLC higher than NYC LA and Denver. Its ratings are calculated by violent crimes per 100,000 people.I dont think it has gotten any better since then.

  12. outside the corridor
    April 14, 2012 at 10:14 am #

    I’m not from Utah, and I live far from Utah; decades ago I spent a few years there going to an LDS university.

    I got kicked off an LDS blog for talking (without using ANY inappropriate language) about the things that I witnessed there–

    many years later when our children were young we went to SLC to visit and stayed overnight in a prominent (Marriott) hotel near temple square. Our children were SO excited to be in such a wonderful place; in the night our car was broken into, and we lost many valuable things–

    we determined that Utah wasn’t a very ‘happy’ place to visit.

    We’ve never been robbed in the area where we now live, surrounded by non-LDS and people who have barely heard the word “Mormon”–

    we feel much, much safer here–

    the crime rate here is much lower, too, by the way–

    The last few years I know there has been an influx of LDS people ‘returning’ to the ‘corridor’ (Utah, Idaho, Arizona, etc.)–

    and I always find it amusing to think of they idea that they think they will, somehow, be safer there, when it is the only place (but one; we were robbed in Idaho once, too, but we lost much less valuable property in Idaho) we were robbed–

    when we tried to call the police, they merely shrugged–

    would do nothing; they almost laughed at us, so we just . . . hung up and gave up and replaced the expensive items, because they were things we needed for our family–

  13. jimz
    April 14, 2012 at 6:07 pm #

    OTC,
    The place I felt the safest in was Seoul Korea. Its a major city, but I never felt unsafe. I even lost my wallet(actually outside of seoul) and it was returned to the local air force base, which called and I picked it up. It had everything, ID, money etc… I was amazed.

    One day my father showed me something. The apartment he was renting had some iron bars over the window to prevent theft. However, he lifted them up. They were not attached to anything, just for show. I thought that a little strange. But I guess it shows that it was just to look safe.

    I think korea has a fairly broad representation of religions, but I think buddhism,confucianism and taoism was strong in the town we lived it. Very ethically minded. Traditional shamanism is very popular. There is an LDS temple in seoul, so there must be some population but I wouldn’t say its common there.

  14. outside the corridor
    April 16, 2012 at 4:16 pm #

    I also felt safer in Asia than in America, Jimz.

    Interesting.

  15. Nathan
    April 19, 2012 at 12:06 am #

    “Whoa.”

    I think I know you well enough Connor to assume that was NOT the first time that you heard that quote. Was the ‘whoa’ just for emphasis?

  16. jimz
    April 19, 2012 at 6:06 pm #

    Whoa is right. But I think I say it in a different way. I am not sure I am understanding this at all. It sounds like a sort of ‘self fullfilling prophecy’. I don’t understand how mormons can believe their religion is true, but get negative results. What I understand is that whenever true light arrives in a place the general consciousness of a people always rises, it never falls.

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